This Groubal is in place to request that Motorola provide an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader option for its end users. This option should be applicable to all currently supported Motorola phones and upcoming phones.
Please also spread the word about this Groubal on Facebook and Twitter and use the following hash tag to help it trend. #unlockmoto
Help keep the pressure up at: http://www.wakeupmoto.com/
New Campaign Page is now Live!
Update: 16th June 2011:
Motorola has now spoken with me and said they will push out unlockable/re-lockable bootloaders in software updates going out later this year. Sounds good, but they made sure to add “where carriers allow”.
http://ausdroid.net/2011/06/14/an-update-on-motorolas-locked-boot-loader-situation/
Update 4th April 2011:
The Facebook page is now live
http://www.facebook.com/unlockmoto
Please like the page and share it with others.
Update 31st March 2011:
Motorola has not yet officially responded to the query of this petition, but we are seeing some progress and they have noticed us.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/355098#355098
The Quick State of Play:
Motorola recently stated that there would be an announcement to their bootloader policy that would help to benefit Developers while protecting its users.
(Refer: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=495971028278)
This Groubal is in place to request that Motorola provide an unlocked/unencrypted bootloader option for its end users. This option should be applicable to all currently supported Motorola phones and upcoming phones.
At the very least this should also be a call to have Motorola make its official announcement sooner rather than later.
I encourage the following types of user from the Android community to support this Groubal:
• Developers with a Motorola Phone
• Developers who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Developers who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Advanced Users with a Motorola Phone
• Advanced Users who have left Motorola due to this reason
• Advanced Users who will not touch a Motorola phone due to this reason
• Any End User that believes in the openness of the Android Platform
Please also spread the word about this Groubal on Facebook and Twitter and use the following hash tag to help it trend. #unlockmoto
Also consider following me on twitter if you want to keep involved:
@ibproud
http://twitter.com/ibproud
Side Note: I also tweet about other Android stuff, random tech news and funny Australian shenanigans.
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Further Reading:
The Motorola Atrix, which was released on 22nd February 2011, is the first Tegra 2 Superphone that is readily available in the U.S. and to a carrier who uses the GSM network (AT&T), this means that unlike the DroidX and Droid2 this phone can be used on most carriers around the world. I for one use this phone in Australia.
This would in most cases make it an appealing phone to the Early Adopters and Developers around the world. However. Motorola has a notorious reputation for locking down their devices and restricting the development of personalised tweaks for their End Users.
I have submitted a written letter to Motorola requesting an announcement about the bootloader and have mirrored this query on their support forum, please refer to the following link.
Motorola Support Forum:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/334844#334844
Unlocking/Unencrypting the bootloader will allow the development of optimized and custom roms to be built for the phone. It also serves to help the development community keep their devices up to date when Motorola or the Carrier no longer supports the device. This would not detract from the End User from buying a new phone, because the way this community operates, we jump to the latest and greatest device when we can afford to and will continue to develop for the other devices we own.
It has been a strong request from the development community for a long time now that Motorola revisit their bootloader policy and provide alternatives for Developers and Advanced Users. At the bottom of this Groubal I have included links to some of the more passionate pleas to Motorola for their various devices to be unlocked.
Links:
General:
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/02/22/motorola-atrix-4g-bootloader-locked-down-custom-roms/
Atrix:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/45249?start=0&tstart=0
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/328304#328304
Milestone:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/28907?start=0&tstart=0
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/312093#312093
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/315651#315651
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/310965#310965
DroidX:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44141?start=0&tstart=0
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/311440#311440
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/325118#325118
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Company Response
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October 24, 2011 : BY Motorola
Without a doubt, the Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade and bootloaders are two of the hottest topics in our world right now, and we want to make sure you know where to go to get the latest information on each.
Ice Cream Sandwich: Check out the Motorola Android Software Upgrade News page on our Support Forum for the latest information, including products slated for the upgrade and the timing of those upgrades.
Bootloaders: It’s our plan to offer an unlockable/relockable bootloader, currently found on the Motorola XOOM, in future software releases starting later this year, where operator and channel partners will allow it. Going forward, check out MOTODEV, the Motorola developer network, for the latest information.
Exclusive: Motorola RAZR will be the first phone to incorporate Motorola’s new bootloader solution
Posted by Irwin Proud on October 21st, 2011 3:02 PM - In Carriers, Exclusive, Modding, Phones
A few months ago I started a campaign to prompt Motorola to unlock their Android devices, now when I say unlock I don’t mean carrier unlocking where you can use a phone with any SIM card, I mean unlocking the bootloader which is the staging area of custom roms on Android handsets.
It is having access to the bootloader that allows you to flash modified versions of Android and custom recoveries (backup utilities) onto your phone. This is how you would load up CyanogenMod Rom or Miui onto the phone and thus change your Android experience, it is also usually the way you would flash a version of your own rom, but with root access and bloatware removed.
The last time I spoke with Motorola they said they were working on a bootloader solution that would allow the unlocking and re-locking of the bootloaders on their phones later this year. It is now “later in the year” and Motorola has informed me that the Motorola RAZR will be the first phone to have this new bootloader solution included.
I spoke with Christy Wyatt (VP & GM Enterprise Mobile Devices at Motorola) and the team last night to get an update on the solution that Motorola has been working on.
The Motorola RAZR which will be announced later this month in Australia is now the first phone to include the fully implemented lock/unlock bootloader software in it. Motorola recently debuted the device on the Verizon network in the U.S. and Christy confirmed that Verizon did opt to disable the bootloader unlock option. This doesn’t mean there is no hope for globally available devices. We were able to confirm that the global version of the RAZR will still have the code in it, but there will still be an opportunity for carriers to have this disabled. We will find out about Optus’ version at their launch on the 27th October.
This is in no way bad news, as once Motorola has officially launched the phone in their global markets, they will be working to have a list of the models that will be unlocked displayed on their motodev.com website.
There was still uncertainty around what this would mean for phones purchased free from carriers, but Christy did take an action to talk to her team and will get back to me soon.
Motorola also noted that they are now reviewing their upgrade metrics for their current devices and are formulating their Ice Cream Sandwich update strategy, this means that the new bootloader solution won’t be broadly deployed until Ice Cream Sandwich builds start rolling out to their phones (where carriers will allow).
Christy did mention that when it comes to determining which devices will receive Ice Cream Sandwich this year, it is based on volumes, carriers and hardware capabilities. A carrier can choose not to do an upgrade to their devices dependent on their testing requirements or sales strategies. We’re all too familiar with this when it comes to Telstra and it’s “NextG Optimising”.
There was an acknowledgement that Motorola has been on the more conservative side when it comes to the handling of the bootloader solution and this could be due to the U.S. market with which they operate in. They are starting to get questions from regulators around end users being able to modify code on the phone that could affect how it accesses cellular networks. It’s something that Motorola has to be mindful of while proceeding down this path to more open devices.
So over the coming weeks we should start to see some more information trickle out about the RAZR and which carriers will allow the unlockable bootloader. This has been a great result considering the locked down nature of all Motorola devices that have been released this year and almost all we can expect from a company as large and as tied to the U.S. carriers (not the most dynamic of thinkers) as Motorola.
On another note…
Now that Motorola has an implemented bootloader solution in the Motorola RAZR, I asked what sort of engagement would happen within the development community.
Motorola’s development approach up until now has been more geared towards App Developers and they currently don’t have plans around supporting community development. This does not mean that they are not willing to help the community, but currently cannot commit to it.
Christy and I discussed the option for community support from their internal development team and securing devices for developers in markets with locked bootloaders. This was another action that Motorola was going to take with them and get back to me about.
I have confidence that we will start to see some more openness from Motorola as the weeks progress and depending on the results of my questions that Christy will get back to me on, we could also see a bit more community engagement from them.
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Stop raping the Open Source community. You make profit from using open-source applications and systems. It's time to give back!
So when this phone no longer supports OS updates from you(Motorola), but has the full capability to run that update, are we suppose to buy a new phone just for the updates? With the community support for custom ROM's we won't have to worry about the fact that you no longer do updates for said phone. But locking this ability stops the consumer that feels comfortable doing this from ever having the chance.
Please be open minded motorola, just like the android OS is... Open
People are getting Motorola's and then leaving to devices that have no place hanging with the Atrix, or other Moto phones, because they have an unlocked/unsigned bootloader.
Motorola gains ZERO customers with this and loses plenty.
Your Bootloader is making you lose money. simplest way for you to understand, I think.
Its contrasting the meaning of the open source code- of Android OS.
We all want you to unlock it, just like you did in the Motorola Xoom, and stop locking all of your Android products.
Thank You,
Daniel.
BTW, U all can also join the campain at http://bit.ly/UnlockMotoPage and show the world ur support to #UnlockMoto by wearing a nice twibbon made for the cause :-D
The Atrix will get way more support
with custom roms
But think of it: hTC devices' bootloader is heavily locked, HTC has never given us an unlocked bootloader (except GoogleExperience phones - as Motorola did).
My Vision's Bootloader is an engineering version and it has been CRACKED. (And I've bought it for sexy hardware AND cracked BL. Without having a cracked BL I wouldn't have bought it at all)
Anyway, hoping for the best on the Atrix.
It makes no sense in any area to disallow modifications to our operating systems.
Fuck you up your stupid ass!
Please motorola!
You are, against all my expectations capable of producing excellent hardware (the Defy - albeit with a widespread issue with the earpieces) but your approach to the OS is abysmal.
It's bad enough that you have one of the most God-awful, pointless custom UIs of any handset manufacturer but to deliberately prevent your paying customers from being able to customise their handsets when pretty much every other manufacturer allows them to do so is downright unforgivable.
Your claims that locking the bootloader is for the security of your customers is also a complete farce; none of your competitors have any sort of security issues due to their unencrypted bootloaders.
And if you feel you're protecting your customers from themselves/from inadvertently screwing up their phones, just don't. The vast majority of end users will never attempt flashing a custom ROM, so your actions have zero impact on them, they merely inconvenience and frustrate the few tech-savvy people who would like to purchase your handsets.
And when I say 'few', I mean it - due to these steps you've taken, Motorola are now all but a joke within the modding/customisation circles, with large numbers of potential customers completely ignoring your new releases on brand name alone, not even taking the time to seriously consider them
Sadly, I doubt you're going to pay any attention to this petition - if you actually gave a damn about what your customers want, this wouldn't be necessary.
Thanks, Michael D. Collins of Springfield,Missouri.
thanks
Slowly pushing out blurry updates is not a way to appeal to power users.
only able to upgrade and fix security problems when the pc manufacture said so?
Thank you!
.. other devices are more attractive;)
Wake up!
so unlock the bootloader that we can update our phones ourselves!
-- never again motorola ---
damit ich auch in Zukunft unabhängig von Motorola mein Defy updaten kann.
Wie es jetzt aussieht ist mit 2.2 schluß und ein künstliches altern findet statt.
Das darf nicht sein!
We are the ones who sign lenghty and expensive contracts with phone companies like AT&T and then get bad service.
If I buy a house I have the right to put any furniture I want or like, if buy a refrigerator I can put any type of food I want, if I buy a convertible sports car I can use it to go to work or only as a Sunday driver.
My point is that wathever we buy with our hard earned money is ours and as our property we have the right to use in whichever way we feel will make our lives better as long as it does not harm anyone else and it is not illegal. If I buy a cell phone I have the right to do whatever I choose to with it.
If this petition does not poduce the results that we as consumers expect and have the right to receive then I guess we should file a class action suit and have a judge rule in our favor like that judge did in the case of iPhones jailbraking.
I'm sure Motorola would love the press. I mean, they are the only manufacturer. RIGHT? I couldn't buy an HTC or LG or SAMSUNG or even an iPhone. I have a damn iPhone running Android.
Void our warranty if you want but you don't have the right to forbid and tell us what to do or what not to do.
If you find any eerie in my tiling is because I used the hopeless and crappy keayboard Moto included in my Atrix.
Posted from my DEFY
Please open bootloaders, we're not dumb, we know what we're doing :)
Otherwise, it may be LG or Samsung for me.
We Need More Custom ROM !!!!!
but looking at locked bootloader,
i'm waiting for it to be open before i choose another one again...
It is acceptable to update the phone to work with two private keys. One being Motorola's, and the other being a user key, which is unique to each phone, and the user can only get by signing up to the Motorola developer program.
But it wasn't to happen... I was quickly disappointed to discovery the device I brought at gold price was pretty much useless to fit my needs... With time the reason became more and more clear, Motorola locked the device for no reason besides full control over costumer needs...
Besides that, Motorola's support providing upgrades and fixing serious bugs was next to nothing in all these moths... instead of taking care of their costumer base, they prefer to release more and more hardware and just wait for you to buy a new one... really?! never more.
Motorola lack of respect with their costumers won't easily be forgotten... they may at least, in an act of good will, liberate their costumers from these already released locked bootloaders and promise to stop this practice, but I guess they will just continue their practices of zero respect to their costumers...
I will not buy another Motorola, what's the point when I can buy an HTC and have it the way I want and need it.
GOODBY MOTO, HELLO HTC
LATER MOTO, HELLO HTC
MOTOROLA PLEASE HEAR US
UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADERS.
People are seeing this all over the world Motorola and it doesn't make Motorola look good so please Motorola listen to us and unlock these bootloaders. Please dont make me set my DX down and go to HTC, like my friends did in fact this made one of my friends so upset that he left Droid all together and went to that I-thing by snapple.
if Motorola don't update our phone at least give us the chance to do it ourselves
As a developer, I believe it is important for users to have access to their device and the ability to install bug fixes and enhancements written by the Android development community.
Please, stop this nonsense. All it does is hurt everyone involved.
I left my Apple iPhone (and AT&T) because I didn't truly own that phone. It was a loan from Apple that I paid for with my own money. When the Droid X came out, I saw a phone that blew the iPhone out of the water and gave me the best operating system available because it was open source. By locking the bootloader, you prevent anyone from tinkering with Android at a core level, and while few will need this ability, a lot of us do enjoy it.
Keeping the bootloader locked means not only will my money for to another company, but so will those who come to mean asking my opinion on the phone to get. Thanks to me, I sold several people on various Motorola phones (including an Atrix). These people will gladly switch to another company if I convince them.
The whole android community can only grow from more openness.
The OG Droid rocks.
I have wanted a new phone for a while now. However, I have been forced to consider other options now that Motorola has decided to repress all of their new phones' potential. I will not buy another Motorola phone unless I can truly own it and use it as I see fit. If the Bionic is not unlock-able another manufacturer will be getting my money this year, and until Motorola changes its Android policy I will not recommend their phones.
Open source shouldn't be taken advantage of like this.
Droid 2 user
So, open Bootloader or GTFO!
I, and 15 of my friends and family, will never own another Motorola phone until the hardware is fully opened up.
Since I bought it, it's MY phone. Like others have said, the car I bought doesn't have its hood locked so I cant get into it. If I choose to modify MY phone, then so be it. I know the risks. I won't come crying back to you (Motorola) with a broken phone after I bricked it.
Let the community do your job.
Unlock the bootloader!
I cannot continue to use, recommend or purchase your products due to the nature of your bootloader policy. You are setting a negative precedent for the open source nature of the Android environment.
Not cool!
I hope you can respect the very reason why many people purchase Android over iOS, the openness. You guys are not only ruining your own reputation, but also contradicting the very value Android has set. I have more respect for almost any other company than Motorola.
Signed,
Your once potential customer.
(pretty please....?)
Closed Bootlader = No more Motorola...
with updates and save buyers?Unlock
this crap!
Unlock the bootloader and many will stay, and more with joy the ranks of the Moto hardware fans.
Unlocking the bootloader is a positive. It can increase functionality and can only serve you better in the long run which in turn will increase Motorola's bottom line. Please consider our wishes, and please keep up the good work with the hardware side of things.
Sincerely,
Former Motorola Fanboi
Motorola Milestone owner.
- 1 Kings 12:7 (I think this wisdom applies here).
I've been hearing better things about HTC and Samsung. It's time for a switch.
Thanks
I LOVE my droid x. That being said, when I look at it recently I am filled with disappointment and fear of it quickly becoming obsolete. Your hardware is so amazing and I was soo happy to get the phone. We all know the dance manufacturers do with the dev community. You are taking it too far though. The entire reason a platform like android exists is because of people like me and my community that look at something as polished as the iphone, yet still reject it because it is so locked down and closed. Android was built to appeal to a person such as myself that has so much faith in the creativity of talented, motivated individuals taking a great product and making it better. Your job as a manufacturer providing a phone on the android platform, is to live up to the high standard set by google and to reinforce and reward the faith of many. Your locked bootloaders all have sound reasoning I'm sure, but at the end of the day they are once and for all only about one thing. turnover. You don't want people sitting on their phones for years, it's the same reason McDonald's has hard plastic seating instead of comfortable plush chairs, they don't want you getting too comfortable. You have to have the confidence in your technology to allow the phones to have some life, people will still upgrade their phones because the hardware will change, your business will be fine. You owe your resurrection as a company to android. So honor the spirit of it's makers and followers and formally unlock the bootloader, take pride in the fact that you support development of your product or else you will lose a potential lifetime customer. I will have kids one day, and I have friend's now, and if you don't step up and be the one's to support what your customer's want, there is a young software engineer somewhere right now that will start the company that will and you will once again fade into the background for not rewarding loyalty. Thank you.
If you unlock your phones you will create a deeper connection and stronger consumer loyalty to the brand that is Motorola.
CM7 is way to go !
until bootloader is unlocked
Android
**OPEN**
Source
Project
-Motorola why are you forgetting what Android stands for??? Remember this platform saved you from going belly up.
You Motorola made it like Apple.. they must jailbreak their phones!
Please open the bootloader.
My support!!!!!!!
-- free the bootloader ---> gain buyers, more sales
-- don't free the bootloader --> lose most of your buyers (including faithful Motorola buyers), less sales
http://www.androidbench.tk
Defy is cool
I bought an Android phone in the understanding that it was an open platform which is what I wanted. The precence of this bootloader completely nullifies the idea of Android.
FroYo update works so bad, that I regret to having done so
This will lead to greater market adoption from your tech user.
My next phone will not be a moto unless the boot loader is unlocked. I currently have planned/budgeted 5 more phones for this year.
No unlock...........no buy!!!!!!!!!
Why turn your backs on these users?
and get rid of Motoblur.... ;-)
2x Droid
1x Droid X
Will not own another one unless some things change. This being one of them.
Granted, the general populous will never need, nor want to explore the limits of the hardware, but us, the modding community eat, breath, and sleep these things. It makes stomaching the $600 price tags a tad more desireable than what we may normally feel.
1- it was a stock google experience which is alot less buggy
2- It had a unlocked bootloader which made advanced users and developers love it
3- It was a well built device that Motorola just needed to focus on good hardware not the software
By locking the bootloader, you are not making Android very open source, now are you?
Unlock. The. Bootloader.
ps: so far it seems this could be my last Android based Motorola device, so do the right thing.
I want to be able to change anything I want about my phones. From getting rid of Blur, to overclocking and undervolting, I want to be able to do it all.
While enthusiasts that care whether or not the bootloader is locked make up a small percentage of your total user base, you would think that catering to this vocal minority would be a large benefit to the company's bottom line in terms of word of mouth and reviews. That said, you potentially send more of your customers to companies like HTC.
Please Moto consider unlocking current and future phones. Thank you
Truly, I for one, will not be giving Motorola any of my money for such nonsense, and the consumer dollar is the ultimate vote. Consider that, Motorola.
If I pay $500+ for a phone, I should be able to do anything I want with it.
Wake up Motorola! You will lose me to HTC.
Just make a way that folks who want to can easily disable the block with the understanding that we are voiding the warranty.
I will not give up my involvement in development by buying a phone with a locked ROM.
Free my boot!!
"I love my original Droid, but I made the decision a while ago to move to another manufacturer if I'm not able to install custom ROMs on my phone. As an IT guy, I like to have total control of my devices; that's what I pay for. Please be more open, Motorola, or you'll have lost a customer forever."
I spent my honeymoon in Hawaii, and dropped my OG droid on the ground, which happened to be hardened lava. Despite the damage, I still showed my phone proudly, stating that "Droid does survive lava encounters." That's love! Please, show some for your loyal customers, and stop locking bootloaders.
p.s. android is no iphone
Locking the bootloader greatly diminishes the ability to customize your device.
In fact, I will /never/ buy a phone with a locked bootloader.
I got the OG Droid for the customization and love it.
But /hate/ my friends Droid X because he cannot unlock the Bootloader.
I would really re-consider getting another Motorola device for the build quality & hardware, if you have shown the smallest sign of support.
the droid x was awesome. it would of been more awesome it the bootloader was unlocked.......i was wanting the dionic or DX2 but i moved to htc and got the thunderbole thunderbolt.....-1 customer....sorry
Please leave the bootloader unlocked it also helps u learn from mistakes...peace
Motorola:: google brought you back from the DEAD. Respect please ..
Perhaps, then i will support your company.
Think about it!
We eventually just get the bootloaders unlocked anyway, so keep them unlocked and save yourselves the trouble. Keep them unlocked for us all who wish to have them that way for open development and customization.
Sent from my Xoom.
I have seriously though of, and am still contemplating, leaving you behind because of this very issue.
So hate to say this but if this practice continues once I am up for an upgrade I won't be purchasing another Motorola device.
As soon as I can save up enough money to replace my Milestone (without having to pay several hundred dollars to my cellular provider) I'll be switching phones. Perhaps Samsung or HTC. I used to tout the wonders of Motorola. Now I tell everyone to stay clear of them.
Oh, math tip, for every person that leaves Motorola as a customer, that's 100 new customers you won't be getting. So multiply what ever number of unhappy customers that have left that your research says have left and then add 25% because you never get the real number from research.
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Grossly, the future
hummmm.............
作为一个曾经的里程碑用户,如果不是因为bootloader被锁的话,我应该会乐意去买Atrix 4G的。不过现在因为被锁了,我转向HTC Vision了(虽然貌似HTC以后也会锁……)。
if not
that is last my motorola's product.
i have try to understand the mean of motorola,but I can't! I need the open platform like linux!so we choose the android! but motorola locked the bootloader so we can not use our roms! I like try the best to persuade myself with force to understand motorola! but i can't!
i have advice so many friends don not buy the motorola android phones just because of the no free bootloader!
we need the best hardware but we need the open device too!not the limit it!
so motorola should know what we want! if u don't want to use the third rpms u can use the office roms! that's no trouble about the safe problem!
we can choose the rom by which i want not u motorola!
unlock all phones bootloader,i will buy the android smartphone soon!if not i will never buy the locked bootloader phones foreve!
i will tell all my frieds and fmilies do not buy motorola phones!!!!
i can say this with most of chinese users!
if u do not unlock the bootloader u will break down soon!u can try it!
motorola wake up and hear us what is users want!
xt720将是我最后一台moto!
to be oooooooxxxxxx
开源才是王道。
--from china.
according to the bootloader many user were leave by that. we don't want to but we have to. i hope you don't let us to be disappointed twice or more, it will let us think about is it a good idea to buy yours product again.
It makes the LG G2X look all the more appealing.
We love MOTO like loving own children
Motorola cat not release fresh android roms by they own, so one way to keep android fresh is provide open bootloader to help custom roms building!
For FREEDOM!










